1.
First of all I'd like to ask you about the people who create
music in HEKATE. Introduce yourself.
Axel:
At the moment Hekate consists of 7 members. You can say that
Achim and I are the most responsible for the musical transposition.
We collected some very good musicians since some years, who
contributed to that what Hekate now is and waht it means for
us.
- there is also Johannes Bernd who plays the drums and the guitar.
Also he accompanies us on cello.
- Ingo Muller, who is part of Hekate since 1990.
- Susi, our vocalist, who also plays the piano.
- Mario Braun of Chorea minor accompanies us on the drums since
1999
- and last but not least Arne, who writes some songtexts und
does the percussions .
As I founded Hekate in 1992 it was a compensation for my life
that could be described as a life with a lot of work, disappointments
and privations.
In my youth I had the possibility to learn the guitar in an
association with a lot of young people from a german youth movement
called "Nerother Wandervogel" . With them I made a
lot of trips to foreign countries. At the age of 15 I started
to work, some years from 5.30 in the morning to 20.30 in the
evening. My family didn?t have much money. At the age of 19
I went to school again for 5 years to study pedagogics later.
Besides I worked as DJ in several clubs and I also worked in
some factories. The music was the only thing that helped me
to carry on. At that time I met Ingo. Beside our time at Hekate
we joined a friensdship for a lot of years.
2. As far as
I know the history of modern HEKATE has started in 1996. Previously
you have played music with modern approach, and only in 1996
you have started to experiment with ancient music and traditions.
Am I right? What has influenced your interest towards archaic
cultures and their music?
Axel:
That?s an interesting question. Yes , we startetd in 1996 with
ancient music and traditions. It was our interest in our own
culture and our traditions, because we felt that in our own
country most of the people forgot their own history. We saw
they forgot their roots and that is the biggest reason they
lost their pride. We live in a world of modern bread and games"
.
We don`t want the circus maximus" in this world, but we
have the circus maximus" in the world now! Nobody can
see it, but it is always in each country all over the world.
We go our own way without any politic interest to change this
situation, but with a lot of ideas to build a strong community
of free people with their own culture and dreams. Yes, it is
very important for ourselves to put our interest in archaic
cultures and carry them forward by music. Yes,
I love nature. I can`t live in a big town. Near my home you
can find a germanic ritual place. Behind it there are old trees.
There are so many places that were holy and powerful for our
ancestors. That?s one of the reasons why we want to translate
this feeling in the hearts of our audience and I can influence
it by putting these ideas in the music.
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3. It's hard to call your songs as authentic ancient stuff
and at the same time they are totally different from mainstream
folk popmusic. IMHO, your experiments lay somewhere between.
how do you see the concept of HEKATE's music for yourselves?
And is there any concept?
Axel:
Oh yes, there is a concept. Our idea is to put the old texts,
myths and legends in the modern time. Our reason is to bring
the music and the texts in a contrast of modern and past music.
Sometimes we take textures from old books in a musical form.
We have no notes or melodies. I think we make modern folk music
with a touch of ambient and medieval sound. Most people have
problems to understand that the concept is to extensive to be
Neo- Folk and to unmodern to be mainstraem folk music.
4. Was it hard
for you to get a deal with Well of Urd? And what do you think
about your cooperation with this label? Frankly, it's well known
among metalheads, but it's rather unknown and new for industrial/
folk scene. Everything goes fine?
Axel:
No, it wasn`t hard for us to go to "Well of Urd",
because we met Andrea from Hagalaz Runedance and she told us
of Well of Urd" as an interesting label with some great
ideas. Before we worked with Well of Urd" we produced
our LP Hambach 1848" by our own label Taos- Records. After
we produced Hambach some labels were interested in Hekate and
in our work. But only Hammerheart Records was the label who
can put all our interests- to produce Tempeltanze" as
a picture disc and the Sonnentanz" in vinyl and a lot
of more. I tell you, in Germany we like Tesco Records and their
work. But in our country you can find so many labels with different
interests and philosophies, but most of them are capitalists
and they are only interested in money. They hide themselves
behind incomprehensible
theories. It`s hard to see that good bands with great ideas
are on these labels, but they get no chance there. These labels
have no light , no visions , no interest in cultures and music.
Their only interest is to win much money. Take some runes, something
from evola and some artwork from the second world war and you
can be a star at some of these labels. That`s not new, but effective.
Igor, believe me, it?s better to be at metalheads who keep their
words than by these firms.
5. I had a chance
to listen to your Tempeltanze and Sonnentanz only. Are there
any other releases available? If so could you tell me a bit
about them?
Axel:
Yes, we produced a tape called Sanctuary with Chorea minor in
1994. It was very ambient with folk influence. 1996 we produced
our first CD The seventh sign", that was a very ambient
concept album about the Johannes Apocalypse". 1999 we
released Hambach 1848", our first folkloristic album about
the German Revolution in 1848. It was a limited edition LP.(300)
that was produced by the label Taos records.
6. What do you
think about SONNENTANZ today? Do you consider it a
successful release?
Achim:
Yes, because it's very folksy and bombastic. It was very important
for us to produce a release like this. It is a result of our
different natures. At this time we wanted to try the mixture
between old and modern elements. I like this result of atmosphere
of Sonnentanz".
7. I enjoy SONNENTANZ
but it's not something I would worship to J At the same time
Tempeltanze blew me away. Fantastic release! I was almost crying
when friend of mine broke my CD. I believe that progression
between both albums is huge. Do you agree? Why have you released
a MCD and not a full-length album? Lack of material?
Achim:
"Tempeltanze" comes along with more individual tracks
then Sonnentanz". I think it ranges from gray wafts of
mist to joyous dances. We released a MCD because we didn't have
enough time to make a full length album. In spite of this we
concentrated ourselves more on the already existing songs.
8. The MCD consists
of melodic songs and pretty aggressive danceable tracks. The
contrast between such tracks is noticeable. It sounds like the
CD is written by two different bands. Will you continue to release
eclectic music in future or you plan to choose one direction?
Achim:
Sometimes, the members of Hekate have different ideas to compose
a song. But we prefer the mix between historic folk songs and
modern electric music. I think, that is the charakter of Hekate.
By the use of modern instruments songs get a new dynamic, perhaps
a new charakter.
9. The song about
Henry M. is among my favorite on the album. Who is this Henry?
Or it's a secret?
ARNE:
Thank you! No, there's no secret about this' Henry. The lyrics
of Henry M. - a wild dream' are my homage to one of the best
authors the world of literature has ever seen: Henry Miller
- a womanizer par excellence. Not too few of his contemporaries
labeled him the most obscene author ever'. Miller fascinates
by painting colourful and joyous socio-historical images of
his time. One can call him one of the few important chronists
of the 1920s. He presents a lot of esprit and verve in a time,
when people had not too much to laugh. Again and again I'm driven
by Millers kind of presenting his staff': Even if they had
no money, they live the dolce vita, drink, laugh, screw and
celebrate themselfs. I found a lot of wisdom and humour in his
novels - especially in Silent days in Clichy' and Opus pistorum'
- and I'm sure you'll, too. By the way: if there's one novel,
where you may find one spark of pornography, then it's the opus
pistorum Opus pistorum'. But, it's Charles Bukowski, who explains
best, what made Miller that brilliant: He was great, when he
was great, and vice versa'. One more by the way': Concerning
Henry M. - a wild dream' we're very proud, that our friend
and brother in arms and bottles of wine Matt Howden played the
violine. He gave the song the certain nuance of the spirit of
folie verte' and dandyism, which was still missing when we
recorded it.
10. Another
my favorite is Ich Hab Die Nacht Getraumet. The song reminds
my old Russian romances. The booklet states that it was written
quite time ago. Why have you chosen that particular song? Any
story behind that?
Susi:
The song "ich hab die Nacht getraumet" was written
in the 18th century. It treats of a person who loses somebody;
probably because of death, war or simply separation. The narrator
has a melancholic, nearly threatening dream full of symbols.
One of them is a rosemary-tree, which stands for eternity and
fidelity. But the tree loses all its petals and green leaves.
Another symbol is the jug with pearls and and red-coloured drops.
These symbols represents sadness and loss. I think, this thema
has great actuality in our hectic and superficial time.
11. When do
you plan to release your new album? Any surprises?
Axel:
At the moment we are working an new album. The month of release
is october 2002..
12. As a rule
bands that sing in German and play folk/ military pop music
are labeled as right-wing/ nazi. Have you ever had any problems
with political correctness? Do you think that this witch-hunt
for right-wing stuff in music will bring any results? I believe
that all scandals around neofolk/ industrial music create aura
of some kind "forbidden fruit". DER BLUTHARSCH is
good example. The band got cult status just for it's image and
now people agree to pay fantastic prices for their every rare
vinyl.
ARNE:
Oh boy, you won't believe how much I'm bored by this topic!
I'm bored of all those wannabe-conservatives, I'm bored of those
Reich-searching pure spirits' and I'm bored of going to concerts
seeing all those mini-Himmlers marching up. I cannot stand them
anymore, I just can laugh about them. And, I'm bored by those
people, who think that they have to label every band nazi',
which sings in german or performs with drums on stage. But,
I cannot laugh about them. There are too few, who are willing
to have an objective look at you. If they want you to be nazi,
you're. And, it's difficult to prove the opposite. The reason
for this is the nothing-can-be-which-should-not-be'-mentality
on the one side and the behaviour of some bands and some of
their fans on the other side. In the end I'm/we're no more interested
in this discussion.
No, we don't have problems with political correctness' - apart
from the fact, that we've a problem with the name pc' -, why
should we? But, it's obvious that HEKATE sometimes is a thorn
in the the fleshs of both sides - right and left - for different
reasons. There are some, who try to piss us off because of Hambach
- 1848' without recognizing, that some of the chosen lyrics
are more left-winged than they will ever get in their wet dreams.
And there are some, who think it's a brilliant idea to send
us a letter to our private adress, asking if we would sing in
yiddish if the flag will be black-white-red again. It's quite
entertaining if you do what you want to do. This pc'-thing
is a big circus and will change nothing apart from the fact
that some of those innovative' conservative role players try
to be even harder.
Concerning DER BLUTHARSCH: I know Albin
for that many years and therefore I cannot say anything about
this forbidden fruit image'. His way of presenting himself
on stage is not my cup of tea and he shares opinions, which
I don't; but: there's no need to: we shared some really nice
moments, share some interests, such as Wein, Weib und Gesang',
have a lot of fun when we meet and he introduced me to frl.
tost and j.j.j.weber of the one and only NOVY
SVET - these are enough reasons for me to differ between
his image and his inner values. But finally: I know what you
want to lead to: too many people don't reflect, they just react.
13. Right-wing
ideologies became popular not only among musicians but among
normal" people as well. I've heard that German officials
expect the biggest since WWII neo-nazi march on December 1.
What do you think about roots of that rising of interest towards
NS ideology? What if it's a natural reaction European Union
and globalization?
ARNE:
Well..., there will be allways people, who will never understand.
The demonstration against the re-opening of the crimes of the
Wehrmacht'-exhibition indeed ended in the biggest nazi-march-up
in Berlin since the Third Reich; 3300 of those people, who cannot
stand the truth of history, and who talk about honour and pride
without having but just one spark of honour and pride.
The increasing interest in neonacism has nothing to do with
globalization' and EU'. It's sad: most of those NPD-toy torpedos
and their friends use those words as headwords of their nailed
up ideas; but: there are no explanations behind them. It's the
same with these 17 years old anti-globalization-tourists, who
travel from one demonstration to the next to get picked up by
their parents in the evening. Most of them cannot give an explanation
for their behaviour; both just fall back in their prefabricated
patterns. The lions roar, but there's nothing behind.
15. You know
Kadmon of ALLERSEELEN and even played
with him live. He is extremely popular in our part of the world
as well and we even had interviews with him twice. what do you
think about him? Do you like his new music on Venezia? Any plans
for cooperation in future?
ARNE:
It's true, we know him. A lot of people may call him a bad boy
- something, which is understandable if you didn't met him.
Really Gerhard is an uncomplicated guy with a great sense for
humour and an outraging urge for knowledge, who never stands
still.
I enjoyed Venezia' quite much even if I enjoyed his CD before
more because of the nice tango-rhythms. Gerhard understood to
take out the political topics of his elderly, mostly instrumental
tracks and replace them with the real important things of life;
i.e. e.g. women and red wine on his future release Abenteuerliches
Herz'. Music shouldn't transport too much politics, Music should
entertain, and this is something his last three records are
able to for sure. When HEKATE performed in Vienna, he played
some of his new tracks to me - they're great! Gerhard is a master-thief;
he produces music perfectly by robbing and compiling music everywhere
even if nearly nobody recognizes this.
To sum it up: Together with DERNIERE VOLONTE and ORDO ROSARIUS
EQUILIBRIO ALLERSEELEN is the only band of this ourdays so called
military-pop-movement, which is 1) great and 2) is great, because
they play pop-music! Well, the real master is the military-pop-crooner
Geoffrey D. ...
No, there are no plans for cooperations. But, if you're interested
in listening to a really entertaining collaboration work of
Gerhard, then you should get his latest release canco de somni',
which is a joint work together with the incredible catalan band
DARKSHINESWAR.
Greatings to all the readers of Stigmata
Love and Light
Hekate
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