PUISSANCE
is one of few bands that known not only for music but also for the ideology
they spread. Even more, sometimes people dont care about PUISSANCEs
music, but they can waste hours in debating about bands misanthropic
philosophy. This spring PUISSNCE has released so long awaited brand new
MCD Hail to the Mushroom Cloud and this outfit is their first "normal"
album since "best of"-kind release War On. About the same time
mainstream metal magazine TERRORIZER wrote that PUISSANCE are "...more
spectacular musical Pearl Harbours in the History of metal and Industrial..."
together with ATARI TEENAGE RIOT, MAYHEM, MARDUK and THROBBLING GRISTLE.
Im not sure if its a big honor to be mentioned together with commercial
black metal fakes like MARDUK or MAYHEM, but the fact that METAL publication
has mentioned the band together with THROBBING GRISTLE tells us that
another milestone is crossed and commercial metal showbiz is going to
explore the field we all used to call "industrial underground".
Will Puissance ruin this tiny world like Cradle of Faggots ruined black
metal scene or they will become legends like BATHORY for black metal
or above mentioned THROBBING GRISTLE for industrial? Time will tell.
Puissance is a mutual work of Frederik Soderlund and Henry Moller. They
both are known for various side projects and if you want to dig more
music from Frederik and Henry I can recommend you two pretty hot albums
from TRIPWIRE (drumnbase + PUISSANCE) and OCTINOMOS (fast black metal).
"The PUISSANCE era started with the release of two industrial tapes
recorded during 93 and 94, which led to the signing to the well-known
Swedish label Cold Meat Industry." Later this Swedish duo appeared
on a double EP compilation together with ARCANA and other 2 bands. It
was a sign of upcoming full-length album. May 1996 has brought to us
Let Us Led, enveloped in a luxury digipack. In April97 CMI has released
7'EP Totalitarian Hearts. Those who didnt want to buy this limited edition
rip-off had to wait till the beginning of 98 when the band released
full-length album suitably entitled Back In Control. Their new CD brought
new sound. The music became less industrial and more orchestral and neoclassical.
In fact, the band continues to move in this direction even today. The
third full-length Mother Of Disease was released in 1998 and it was published
by young Polish label Fluttering Dragon. The success of the album made
possible some sort of "Best of PUISSANCE" album entitled War
On. It was unleashed in summer days of 1999. Year 2000 has brought to
us new wave of radiation from Chernobyl, global cyanide pollution of
Europe, mass ritual murders in Africa, new wars and new MCD from PUISSANCE.
In fact its their first MCD and as I already told its named Hail to
Mushroom Cloud.
You have released your totally new MCD. Why MCD? As far as I know
its the first time when PUISSANCE releases a MCD. You dont have enough
material for a full-length? Mother is less industrial and more orchestral
than your previous releases. What about Hail To The Mushroom Cloud? Describe
the sound of your new album.
We do have
plenty of material, so there is no need to worry, the mini-CD is meant
as a concept album, someone wrote that it was dedicated to the atomic
bomb and its effectiveness, that's not my words though, to some extent
that statement may be slightly valid, but the concept of the miniCD is
really quite different. It is more of a spiritual side of Puissance and
the main idea is to depict the atomic bomb as a deity, not really as
a weapon. Musicwise we have been experimenting with some new ideas borrowed
from Tripwire which is another band Im involved in, the new stuff has
been described as a mix between Wagner and PORTISHEAD, which is more
or less accurate I guess.
I wanted
to ask you this question very long time ago. Why did you decide to leave
Cold Meat Industry? I know that PUISSANCE wasnt ordinary band for CMI,
they have promoted you much better than many their other cults. And at
the same time Fluttering Dragon doesnt look very professional to me,
I hardly can find reviews of your CDs in press.
I don't
know why people ask that question, but Ill paste an old answer from
a recent interview: "Well, I don't know, we have answered this question
a few times now, and I don't know why people keep asking it, I've been
on many labels and CMI is just one of them, not much better and not much
worse than others, it's just a label that prints records for artists
that want to be there, we decided we wanted to move on and so we did,
we choose Fluttering Dragon because it was a smaller label but had some
potential, we still think it does. So PUISSANCE leaving CMI was not about
artistic freedom or money, if it was about anything it may have been
lack of communication or speed, but mainly it was just something that
we felt it was time for." Well thats what I said last time someone
asked about CMI and I feel more or less the same now, regarding the things
you say about our current record label I can agree that Xak on some occasions
have been acting a bit strange, but somehow he seems to do a decent job
anyway, I know that distribution is not his strong side, but I think
that may change in the near future. But what I do like about Fluttering
dragon is the speed and ignorance, we could put basically anything on
the cover of an album and have it printed in less than a month, thats
the kind of things I like about a label, I dont care too much about
how many records he sells.
Your
new album is dedicated to the atomic bomb and it's effectiveness. But
atomic bomb isnt very effective. Look at Japan, look at Belarus (Chernobyl)!
This weapon is very spectacular to watch, but it isnt very dangerous.
People can live even after that. For example, biological weapon is much
more brutal and perilous you get absolutely dead cities full of equipment,
factories, and buildings... Chemical warfare is good one as well Look
at dioxin hysteria last year a couple of kilograms of this shit put all
Europe in panic. Why did you decide to choose atomic bomb as a symbol
for your new album?
I beg to
differ, the atomic bomb is tremendously effective and I would take you
up on the offer to indeed take a look at Japan. Well in Japan there are
the two nuked cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I guess we all read about
that in school, and I think most of us know that they still have problems
with it, there are deformed babies born there still today just because
of the bombs dropped 50 years ago, and let me assure you that not very
many of the houses that were around before the bomb was left standing
afterwards. We must also consider that the bombs dropped on Japan were
merely fireworks compared to the big ones we have today, if you were
to drop one of those on a city or even a small country I can promise
that nothing would be left, the big modern bombs aren't atomic bombs
though, they are hydrogen bombs and burn with ridiculous high temperatures
and destroy everything, compare a normal atomic bomb 10.000.000 degrees
core temperature to the staggering 400.000.000 - 800.000.000 degrees
produced by a hydrogen bomb, I know that both of these temperatures defy
belief but nonetheless I think there may be some relevance in mentioning
this, and keep in mind that hydrogen bombs cover a much larger area and
have far greater impact larger blast center and also are usually dropped
in clusters, say for instance 12 of them dropped by one missile then
spread over a huge are and detonated at a designated altitude for maximum
impact. There is nothing more violent and brutal than a hydrogen/atom
bomb and that is the reason we decided to write a tribute to them, but
once again I must mention that we didnt write the miniCD to the bomb
itself or its effectiveness (which I think sounds silly to do), no we
wrote it for what the bombs represent, and for me they represent the
ultimate transgression, the tamping of godly fire and the key to total
power (at least total power to corrupt), for me they represent mankinds
attempt to control gods finger and govern with the terror presented in
the old testament of the bible. The bombs themselves are nothing, but
what they represent is a quite a horrible/beautiful thing, I know that
it's debatable whenever genetics or nuclear arms are the biggest threat
to divinity or whatever you would be defending in a discussion, but really
I dont think that matters. In closing I feel I should respond to your
mentioning of bioweapons, well they sure seem effective but I don't think
they look very fun, and besides you can very often find a cure for an
illness or disease even if it would probably take some time and some
people would die along the way, but try stopping a 400.000.000 degree
flame with a vaccine, I doubt that even a really good sun-tan lotion
would do much good in that situation.
You are
very happy that mainstream metal magazine for teenagers called you as
musical Pearl Harbour together with shitty mainstream techno band ATR
(they write music for MTV, cooperate with commercial crap like Beasty
Boys or may be even Madonna!), sold out pathetic ex-cult BM band Mayhem
(that lost all their old fans and try to make some cash on its old glory),
and Swedish clowns Marduk (this band is known for totally dumb music,
all their albums sound the same and you cant find any difference between
their first or last outfits). Dont you think that such fame and such
"Pearl Harbors" will make you fans believe that PUISSANCE also
wants to be one of those sold-out commercial bands from magazine covers.
Swedish (or even American) Grammy Awards is the goal for Puissance as
an underground industrial band?
Yeah I do
like it, I like it a lot, I think it's very nice being listed with THROBBING
GRISTLE, who were an innovative band and way ahead of it's time when
they started out, and I do like being listed with ATARI TEENAGE RIOT,
because they were one of the first bands to start out on the new breakbeat/techno
punk wave which is not just quite interesting music but also has some
nice lyrics some of the time, I have an old DHR compilation on which
they seem a lot more crazy then weve ever been, I also like being mentioned
together with MAYHEM since they started the whole new wave of Black Metal,
and I like much of the stuff they did, I still think De Mysteriis Dom
Satanas is one of the best Black Metal albums ever made, and in closing
I think it's great to be listed with MARDUK since I respect Morgan as
a musician and think he is one of the few persons who write interesting
music nowadays, I myself have no trouble telling the difference between
different MARDUK albums I may not agree with all his ideas but hes really
ok and besides hes a personal friend of Henry so I guess I better say
something nice about him. I'm not aiming for a Grammy award, I don't
know why you would think that since you were complaining about us choosing
a small independent label in one of your first questions, if I ever were
to win one though I guess I would think it was a great opportunity to
say something about how fucked up this world is and how much I hate it
and the people who live on this planet. If our old fans leave us because
of my attitude, well then they cant have been paying attention to what
I say in my lyrics because PUISSANCE has never sworn any allegiance to
any scene or to anyone, we always do what we like and say things like
we want, and from what I hear from our fans it seems that its that they
like about us, not the fact that we are part of any underground or scene.
The last
question. Its about your ideology. You want to see Earth dead. You want
to destroy the civilization. Its easy to destroy; its easy to be a
critic. Its easy to die in the name of But its really hard to live
in the name of Its hard to build your own. People who destroy usually
dont have ideas what do they want to build. If you dont care about
your own lives why dont you get guns and fight with the system you hate?
Why dont you try to build your own "perfect" world? Why dont
you try to find the cause of degradation of this world? You have nothing
to loose but your own lives. Or all the words about death are nothing
but "trade mark" for underground market?
I'm not
sure where to start on this question, you ask a lot of things in a pretty
random order, I guess I could start off by saying that PUISSANCE have
never been interested in building a functional world or attempt to make
any sense of the one we already live in, our goal is simply to explain
how we feel, you are right it's easy to be a critic and it is indeed
hard to try to build something, I would have to say that building a perfect
or even reasonably functional world is not just hard, it would be quite
impossible. I know that many people disagree with me and say that we
have to try to make this world a better place but I can't really see
any point, it seems to me that history has proven those people wrong
so many times, and besides history I know myself well enough to say that
no world would ever satisfy me, I am a greedy and self-centered asshole
who care much more about myself than of any system or other people, I
don't have any moral values that I wouldn't trade in for money or fun,
I have no idea of how a perfect world would look and doubt that anyone
else has either, because what is perfect for you might not be perfect
for me and vice versa. If you believe that you can build such a place
you are welcome to try it, but don't count on any help from us, we don't
believe in building, even if you were to build a paradise you would still
have to figure out where to put the toilet, if you make a world of silver
someone is bound to steal it, I hope you get my point, people are driven
much more by egoistic needs than the common good, that is why all political
systems fail and always has, as soon as a system is working smoothly
someone is bound to find a way to exploit it for personal gain. We all
make mistakes and we all produce a lot of garbage, we all lie sometimes
and we all want something more once we have everything we have dreamed
of, if things werent like that we would probably still be living in
caves, and we would probably be a lot more mentally sound than we are
in this stressed environment that we have produced. Me try to build something
beautiful? well sure Ill build something but it wont be for mankind,
Ill instead write a beautiful song about what I believe in, or paint
a beautiful picture of a personal dream or experience, but build a society
or even pay the least bit of attention to politics? Not me! I couldnt
care less about what politicians do and how this world is run, I have
no time for it, and it doesnt interest me the least. I care about my
immediate surrounding and my own life thats all I have time for, and
thats all I'm gonna do, I know I cant go back to living in a cave,
I am to spoiled with modern things like musical instruments computers
and television, but I can live as I was intended to in the sense that
I pay less attention to the abstract world of liars and politicans where
everything is debatable and the only thing that matters is winning, instead
Ill spend my time on things that matter to me, like my music. Sure I
hate people, I hate the human race much more than I love myself, and
I know that is a sad truth, but its just me I guess. And the day that
this world becomes too much of a burden and real life (as you would probably
call it) comes knocking on my door, and when I feel so stressed by seeing
people pass outside my window or walk across my TV screen, that day I
will try to blow to world up, and I hope it turns out to be just as easy
as you said, I am not a brave person, I would never say that dying for
something is easy, I know my limit I think the final decision to die
in the name of global human extinction will be pretty hard. I don't believe
dying is easy, but I'm sure it's a lot easier than wasting my whole life
debating useless crap with politically involved men with large egos and
small penises who are the ones who are more willing to sacrifice your
dream of a perfect world than to admit that they are wrong about even
the smallest most trivial detail in a discussion. Id rather blow myself
and the entire world up than find myself acting like the filthy whores
of journalism, who would sell anything true or not just to have their
name printed on the first page of a shitty magazine. Id rather tell
all people who like my music to go to hell than to try to please them,
dont get me wrong, I think it's good that people like my music but I
would never change my ideas or my music to please them, if they like
it they like it for what it is. And thats the way I wonna keep it. I
write my music about things I feel strongly for, and I truly believe
that mankind is a waste of life, and I do believe that people are disgusting
and should be killed. Its not very strange that I feel that way, just
look on the way people act.
One more
Do you have any news about your side projects? When do you plan your
new PUISSANCE album?
Yeah, I
just released the new OCTINOMOS album on Baphomet records and Hammerheart
records, if any of the PUISSANCE fans who read this are into Black metal
at all you should buy it, it's the equivalent of PUISSANCE as it would
sound if it was metal. Also I have my TRIPWIRE album out on Fluttering
Dragon, buy that one too since it's not like any of my previous bands/records,
maybe youll end up hating me or maybe youll like it, only getting the
album will tell. As far as PUISSANCE goes we are working on our next
full-length album, which is soon ready, but first we are releasing the
miniCD and then a box with our demos. When those two things are out well
release the new full-length album.
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